Posts by the prisoner No 6

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GLOBAL FLOOD . . . Did it Really Happen?

by sizemik in

this question became an off-topic sidetrack in another thread.

i thought it might be worth some debate so posted here .

the debate is basically between mainstream geological understanding of the earth's history and "young earth creationism" in particular with how the evidence relates to the occurrence of a global flood in the recent past.. a couple of points from the yec website www.icr.org are raised as examples in order to kick things off .

the prisoner No 6

Yes Moshe, I couldnt post under MAX, so had to re-regirster, bummer Iam back to 10 posts, i just feel the love from your post,I am not here to covet popularity,just to comment,

Back on topic, If the supreme being, backed the construction of the Ark and as we have seen the Ark could have been a viable craft,who are we to deny it ? Its not like its the man made BS from the WTS,I am not trying to be obstinate, or to play devils advocate. Infact the only point that has had any impact on my thinking has been made byUNSHACKLED, NO means of propulsion, and I am not even sure thats a clincher either.

Can i take this oppertunity to thank EVERYONE for there contribution here on this topic, It was only 6 weeks ago that i discovered WTS was a sham, and to Justinfrombethel,beeig educated is why I am here, if not Id be at KH beeing spoonfed shit

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GLOBAL FLOOD . . . Did it Really Happen?

by sizemik in

this question became an off-topic sidetrack in another thread.

i thought it might be worth some debate so posted here .

the debate is basically between mainstream geological understanding of the earth's history and "young earth creationism" in particular with how the evidence relates to the occurrence of a global flood in the recent past.. a couple of points from the yec website www.icr.org are raised as examples in order to kick things off .

the prisoner No 6

@ mindseye, Earlier in the thread, I made the exact same point of the possibiliy of a Local delege, that had a catastrophic effect, this would then not nessesitate housing the countless millions of creatures alluded to by Sizemic. After all the purpose of the flood was primarily wipe out mankind, who at that time according to the bible, spoke one language and lived in a small geograghical area.As I suggested earlier, ther was no need for Noah to go to Aus to get kangaroos, or the Americas to get buffalo ect, this was simply not nessesary, because the creatures in these areas would not need to be touched by any flood because humanity at that time was restricted to one small area in the middle east, and since all humanity lived in a small area, only that area and the creatures within would be subject to a deluge,consequently, many fewer creatures were at risk, so fewer needed to be housed in the Ark, so the Ark really could have housed the creatures at risk in that area of deluge, and it was a viable craft built along optimum dimensions.

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GLOBAL FLOOD . . . Did it Really Happen?

by sizemik in

this question became an off-topic sidetrack in another thread.

i thought it might be worth some debate so posted here .

the debate is basically between mainstream geological understanding of the earth's history and "young earth creationism" in particular with how the evidence relates to the occurrence of a global flood in the recent past.. a couple of points from the yec website www.icr.org are raised as examples in order to kick things off .

the prisoner No 6

I have faith in the laws of Physics, and stress mechanics and the scienfiic method, no other beliefs preclude me from having a view on wheather the Ark existed or not, scientifically it could have existed,it would have been a viable vessel if built along the lines outlined in the bible,thats just my belief, what other people chose to believe is up to them

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GLOBAL FLOOD . . . Did it Really Happen?

by sizemik in

this question became an off-topic sidetrack in another thread.

i thought it might be worth some debate so posted here .

the debate is basically between mainstream geological understanding of the earth's history and "young earth creationism" in particular with how the evidence relates to the occurrence of a global flood in the recent past.. a couple of points from the yec website www.icr.org are raised as examples in order to kick things off .

the prisoner No 6

Hi OLDIE FARKEL, you really are a miserable old sod, cheer up , enjoy life, get out more, you sound like our self appointed genius eegnog.Why have a forum in the first place, if our quest for knowledge is going to be thwarted or ridiculed by people like you ? why not let others have a view, and share there own perspectives ? Are you ever wrong ? do you ever consider some people just might just find YOUR platitudes and put downs rude.

Anyway, getting back on topic,In 1993, naval achitects and structional engineers from the world class KRISPO research facility in Korea, concluded that the Arks proportions were near optimal, they further cocluded that the ratio of the Ark(30 by 5 by 3) turns out to be the perfect design to prevent capsizing in rough seas.

The size of the Ark, would also have enabled an est 40,000 air breathing animals could be housed on one of the three decks, leaving the other two decks for foodstuffs ect.

Another intristing point I found doing reasearch,was that Chinese treasure junks, some even bigger than the Ark and also made of wood were built in the 15th century, with similar dimensions to the Ark.

I just dont think we have enough evidence to rule the Ark as myth, easpecially, as this project would have the backing of Jehovah

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GLOBAL FLOOD . . . Did it Really Happen?

by sizemik in

this question became an off-topic sidetrack in another thread.

i thought it might be worth some debate so posted here .

the debate is basically between mainstream geological understanding of the earth's history and "young earth creationism" in particular with how the evidence relates to the occurrence of a global flood in the recent past.. a couple of points from the yec website www.icr.org are raised as examples in order to kick things off .

the prisoner No 6

@ sizemik, Adaption is not evolution, sheep on Islands started to eat kelp instead of grass, because grass was in short supply, they are still sheep just utilising a different foodstuff, I could replicate this eg hundreds of times, with different creatures, on land, in air ,at sea.

bee seing you

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GLOBAL FLOOD . . . Did it Really Happen?

by sizemik in

this question became an off-topic sidetrack in another thread.

i thought it might be worth some debate so posted here .

the debate is basically between mainstream geological understanding of the earth's history and "young earth creationism" in particular with how the evidence relates to the occurrence of a global flood in the recent past.. a couple of points from the yec website www.icr.org are raised as examples in order to kick things off .

the prisoner No 6

@Heaven , The kangaroos did not have to get back to Aus because they never left in the first place, read my post, it only needed to be a local flood since all humankind lived in a very small geograghical location. !!!!

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GLOBAL FLOOD . . . Did it Really Happen?

by sizemik in

this question became an off-topic sidetrack in another thread.

i thought it might be worth some debate so posted here .

the debate is basically between mainstream geological understanding of the earth's history and "young earth creationism" in particular with how the evidence relates to the occurrence of a global flood in the recent past.. a couple of points from the yec website www.icr.org are raised as examples in order to kick things off .

the prisoner No 6

@heaven, there are hundreds of thousands of creatures spread geograghically around the globe, according to the bible they were here before us. How did they get to there respective locations ? do you believe in Darwinian evolution ? obviously Noah did not take them there who did ? If you believe in evolution why dont we have kangaroos in the Americas ? The point Im making is we just dont know much about the world we live in, your assertions and inuendo dont progress the debate, with all due respect H, thats the same limited rational that lead me to become a JW, Just because most of us here have a shared agenda against WTS, that does not mean I am putting my brain in nuetral again.

be seeing you

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GLOBAL FLOOD . . . Did it Really Happen?

by sizemik in

this question became an off-topic sidetrack in another thread.

i thought it might be worth some debate so posted here .

the debate is basically between mainstream geological understanding of the earth's history and "young earth creationism" in particular with how the evidence relates to the occurrence of a global flood in the recent past.. a couple of points from the yec website www.icr.org are raised as examples in order to kick things off .

the prisoner No 6

@heaven, Good point, Noah could not have made it to AUS to collect kangaroos, but my own view of a localised flood, he did not need to ,since all human creation, according to the bible, lived in a small geograghical area, all he neede to do was flood that area in order to wipe out humankind. To those who dismiss the biblical account of a water cannopy, your going to have to overturn Boyles theory on Gasses, and the Fact that vegitation is found at the poles and also under the Sahara, It clearly could not have happened if the extremes of temprature found today at these locations had remained constant, at some point the polar regions and deserts provided conditions that enabled lush vegitation.

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GLOBAL FLOOD . . . Did it Really Happen?

by sizemik in

this question became an off-topic sidetrack in another thread.

i thought it might be worth some debate so posted here .

the debate is basically between mainstream geological understanding of the earth's history and "young earth creationism" in particular with how the evidence relates to the occurrence of a global flood in the recent past.. a couple of points from the yec website www.icr.org are raised as examples in order to kick things off .

the prisoner No 6

@ moshe, what do you think of my post, regarding only a localised flood was nessesary ?

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GLOBAL FLOOD . . . Did it Really Happen?

by sizemik in

this question became an off-topic sidetrack in another thread.

i thought it might be worth some debate so posted here .

the debate is basically between mainstream geological understanding of the earth's history and "young earth creationism" in particular with how the evidence relates to the occurrence of a global flood in the recent past.. a couple of points from the yec website www.icr.org are raised as examples in order to kick things off .

the prisoner No 6

Using Boyles law it is possible for a great amount of water in the form of vapour, to be kept hot and under presure in the Thermeosphere, this could account for the water canopy, which would indeed create the greenhouse effect and stabilise tempratures around the globe

Would there be any need for a truly Global worlwide flood ? Not really, since Jah wanted to destroy mankind, and they were living in the same geograghical area, a localised flood would make more sense, Ja did not need to flood the Americas or Australia there was no piont, accordind to the bible all of mankind, were living in one small part of the globe. Flood It and you get all mankind, makes more sense, that way Noah does not have to go to Aus to get kangaroos ect.

be seeing you